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Post by mjacob on Oct 4, 2015 17:07:32 GMT
FILM QUESTIONS 5 #9765
(1) Draw, from your own life or others’, an experience when you’ve had a conflict between the subjective of reality and no objective prove.
Years back when I just graduated high school, my grandfather passed away. It was very traumatic for my mother because of not how he did, but where he died (not going in to details with that). Anyway, maybe a month or 2 after his death my mom came into my room this one morning looking a bit startled, not necessarily frightened, but looking like something came over her. She says to me, "I had a dream about your grandpa last night," and with a very calm voice she says, "Your grandpa is ok." My mom continues explaining her dream, she was going down stairs to eat breakfast and while heading to the kitchen she sees someone watering the plants and grass in the backyard. When she walked closer to the sliding door to get a better look as to who it was she said it was my grandfather, (and mind you, this was his daily morning routine before he got sick. Wake up real early, have his coffee and toast, and then after water the plants and grass in the backyard.) My mom said he looked a bit different. He looked like a younger, healthier, stronger person compared to how he looked like when he passed. My mom went over to him and started crying saying she missed him and loved. He gave her a huge hug, consoled her,and with his loud jolly chuckle he said to her," I am ok." She said that all he kept repeating to her was that he was ok. After she was done telling me her dream she cried... and I cried. She said to me that it didn't feel like a dream, but instead her experience felt real. She had not seen my grandfather looking so healthy, and better yet, so happy since he got sick. Her dream just confirmed to her that he had made it...he made it to heaven and that he is ok and she believed that this dream of hers was him telling her that. There isn't any proof as to wether my grandfather really came to tell my mom that he is ok and he is in heaven, and there isn't any proof to experience feeling real, but raw, from your own life or others’, an experience when you’ve had a conflict between the subjective of reality and no objective prove.
Years back when I just graduated high school, my grandfather passed away. It was very traumatic for my mother because of not how he did, but where he died (not going in to details with that). Anyway, maybe a month or 2 after his death my mom came into my room this one morning looking a bit startled, not necessarily frightened, but looking like something came over her. She says to me, "I had a dream about your grandpa last night," and with a very calm voice she says, "Your grandpa is ok." My mom continues explaining her dream, she was going down stairs to eat breakfast and while heading to the kitchen she sees someone watering the plants and grass in the backyard. When she walked closer to the sliding door to get a better look as to who it was she said it was my grandfather, (and mind you, this was his daily morning routine before he got sick. Wake up real early, have his coffee and toast, and then after water the plants and grass in the backyard.) My mom said he looked a bit different. He looked like a younger, healthier, stronger person compared to how he looked like when he passed. My mom went over to him and started crying saying she missed him and loved. He gave her a huge hug, consoled her,and with his loud jolly chuckle he said to her," I am ok." She said that all he kept repeating to her was that he was ok. After she was done telling me her dream she cried... and I cried. She said to me that it didn't feel like a dream, but instead her experience felt real. She had not seen my grandfather looking so healthy, and better yet, so happy since he got sick. Her dream just confirmed to her that he had made it...he made it to heaven and that he is ok and she believed that this dream of hers was him telling her that. There isn't any proof as to wether my grandfather really came to tell my mom that he is in heaven, and there isn't any proof that my mom's experience felt real, but she said it didn't feel like a dream but more so a memory. She felt his presence, heard is loud voice, felt his grizzly bear hug that felt real to her.
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Post by Omal on Oct 4, 2015 17:29:30 GMT
1. Describe a subjective experience that you cannot prove objectively?
06 June 2012 Planet Venus due to pass between Earth and Sun in rare astronomical event which is subjective as the person can see it by their own eyes, but it is impossible to take pictures of it under that circumstance without proper equipment. Once you have seen it, and it is gone for another years until 2117. Most of the scientists take closer pictures and videos of it, but it is not that specific as it is seen by our own eyes. Most of the people has the ability to see the moment through pictures or videos, but it won’t be necessary to achieve the correct experience of it.
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Post by Omal on Oct 4, 2015 17:29:57 GMT
1. Describe a subjective experience that you cannot prove objectively?
06 June 2012 Planet Venus due to pass between Earth and Sun in rare astronomical event which is subjective as the person can see it by their own eyes, but it is impossible to take pictures of it under that circumstance without proper equipment. Once you have seen it, and it is gone for another years until 2117. Most of the scientists take closer pictures and videos of it, but it is not that specific as it is seen by our own eyes. Most of the people has the ability to see the moment through pictures or videos, but it won’t be necessary to achieve the correct experience of it.
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Post by miguel on Oct 5, 2015 17:51:09 GMT
Miguel Orozco Code: 64247
1. Provide two or more examples of "Gumby Land" thinking in your own life or from someone you know. Feel free to tell it in story form.
It was on a summer night when my friend and I were enjoying the cool refreshing night wind whilst sitting outside on my front porch. We talked and we laughed as we enjoyed a couple of beers. After some time I decided to ask a question that always bogged my mind but never took the moment to ask someone. The question was, “Prove to me that you aren’t a figment of my imagination.” Throughout my life I have interacted with numerous people. They appear, behave, and react much like I would think another human being would. Thus, as I grew up I would say that they carried a similar form of consciousness. However, I could only assume that all the people I have met were actually acting on behalf of their own volition because I could not experience their consciousness. Could they generate the same images and thoughts in their head like I was capable of? I explained all this to my buddy and after some discussing we reached the conclusion that either argument was not definite. I could be the only person with self-awareness or everyone could be just like me. The conversation and decision my friend and I had was filled with Gumby Land thinking because we were discussing an argument that we had no definitive proof for either side.
After moving into my current home, I remember my grandma, a few uncles, and family friends reminding us to invite a priest over so that the priest could bless the house. Similarly, when my grandma found herself a new house, one of the first things she did was also to search for a priest to come over and bless her house. The reason for this was that my family is predominately catholic and at some point they all were taught that in order to ward of any negative spirits and energy a priest needed to come over. Correspondingly, all those people that adamantly sought to have our house blessed had Gumby Land thinking for the reason that the action they desired would most likely have no effect on the house. Houses are inanimate objects that are unaware of what occurs around, inside, and to them. Also, it is very unlikely that priests in fact have powers to banish evil beings. The only outcome that I saw possibly was a soothing nights rest from having a false sense of protection.
2. Describe two or more examples from your own life where you have been caught by "maya" and how did you extricate yourself from such a delusion? You may also use examples from others you know.
Two examples of when I was caught by Maya’s deceptions took place when I was young. As a child I was warned not to swallow the seeds of a fruit because then I would grow that fruit inside my stomach. Consequently, the fruit that I feared the most were watermelons because I thought that they would grow big enough to blow up my stomach and effectively end my life. Then during one summer with its intense heat here in southern California there was a day when I was eating watermelon and accidentally swallowed a few seeds. Immediately, I was petrified to idea of a watermelon growing inside my stomach. I began to cry and ask my mother to take me to the hospital to remove the seeds. As I remember it, my mother laughed a bit as she tried to assure me that nothing would happen. However, for the next couple of weeks I would check to see that my stomach had not grown in size. After which, I realized that eating seeds would not result in a tree or vine growing in me.
Another example took place when I was 11 years old. My dad and I visited Las Vegas during my summer break where we spent much of our time eating out, enjoying the shows and a rides, and swimming. Now with the summer heat I found myself in the pool for hours playing around with new friends and family that lived near the city. It was likely that my dad got tired of waiting for me to get out of the pool so he came up with lie. He told me that the longer I stayed in the pool the more likely I would turn into a shark. I wasn’t sure if he was telling the truth, but I quickly put it to the test every following day. I thought the idea of becoming a shark was awesome so I continued to swim for hours each day. From the multiple attempts I saw that no matter how much I tried I could not become that shark hence I was free from the short lived delusion.
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Post by Ken on Oct 5, 2015 18:41:48 GMT
Code #9765 I don’t know if there is anything that I can add on further to my story about the ghost from last week. I felt it was real at the time to the point I had a conversation with the entity. I can’t re-create the experience as I only saw it one time and the home no longer is owned by our family. The only confirmation I have is that other family members who lived there also so what they believed to be ghosts as well, a man and a woman. Not just during the night but also during the day. The story went that the previous owners had passed away but not in the home. However they had buried some valuables in the backyard but my grandfather built an addition on to the home that covered the area where it was buried. This part was unclear how they knew that something to do with family members of the couple or they themselves letting my grandparents know before they passed on. My grandparents have now passed also so it is difficult to get that detail. I know I was fully awake because I had been up for some time restless in the notion I needed to go to the bathroom but too lazy to get up to go. I saw a person I had never seen before, I didn’t recognize the man, I wanted him to be my grandfather but I knew it wasn’t yet still I talked to him like he was. The ghost moved towards the kitchen with an expressionless face. I double checked all doors and windows and people in the home, could not have been anyone in the house or anyone from outside of the house. Time frame from me drying my hands to walking around the corner to the kitchen was 10 seconds or less, my grandfather couldn’t have slept walked across the house in 10 seconds he had a gimpy leg, another reason I didn’t think it was him, he didn’t move like him, plus my grandfather appeared to be sound asleep when I checked on him immediately after discovering no one in the kitchen. The only theory besides a ghost is me projecting the person standing there, someone I had never seen before unless it was someone I had seen and the image was stuck in my sub conscious somewhere, but why would that person randomly pop in to my head in that scenario and unrecognizable figure. What if it was an alien studying us take a pee? What if our unexplained phenomenon’s are the result of some spoiled experiment where they don’t mean to reveal themselves but they are already here observing us and this is what we see in rare occasions. I mean it seems just as absurd but if in the end I saw it and made it real doesn’t me making it real give it reality.
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Post by adriancast on Oct 6, 2015 0:48:32 GMT
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A great example of subjective reality and no objective proof would be Dodger fans. Dodger fans love to argue how great their team is but yet haven’t won a championship in 27 years. Dodgers fans always say. “this is our year” “we have the best team” but yet always lose in the playoffs and never advance to the world series. Religion can always be used as subjective reality and no objective proof. Only evidence religion has is a book that was written thousands of years ago. People believe in religion so much I find it somewhat entertaining. I hear people always say, “thank god” “god made this happen” etc. when in matter in fact god did nothing. Them themselves are the ones that did it themselves and no higher god like person. People believe in religion I feel mostly because of tradition and their parent’s influence which is annoying. Parents can make their kids feel bad if they don’t do things a certain a way. For example, I know some people who got married because their parents told them too. This couple is having a baby and because their mom is a Christian “it is wrong for them to have a baby and not be married” I thought it was a joke. How can you force someone to get married when they’re not even married just because they’re expecting a baby… but because her mother said god said it was wrong for them to have a baby without being married is a sin. Why do people still believe in just ludicrous ideas..? it’s because of tradition and their belief in subjective reality with evidence they think that is evidence when in fact it’s just what they knew all their life growing up and being taught by their parents and never challenging their parents influences.
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Post by jxssie0628 on Oct 6, 2015 14:01:38 GMT
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1) Draw from your own life or someone else’s life a time when you had a subjective reality, but no objective truth?
Drawing from my personal experience a time when I had a subjective reality with no objective truth was when I would suffer from night terrors with sleep paralysis. When I would experience these it was always someone or something chasing me or trying to get in my house. I can still recall this one night I fell asleep in a futon in my living room, in my dream I was in the same exact spot and I started to hear strange noises coming from outside my window. I immediately got up and started to look up all my doors and windows and went back to lying down, but then I heard a loud tumbling noise inside the house. It sounded like a huge Great Dane had ran from one corner of my house to another. In my dream I knew that whatever was outside had made its way inside my house and that I was going to be face with my biggest nightmare ever. Just by accepting that subjective reality I made my night terror come to life all of sudden I could hear something breathing hard just steps away from me. It sounded like a growl of a wolf when it is about to attack, I can still remember feeling my heart beating so fast. I was terrified it felt so real, I couldn’t breathe or move, worse feeling ever by far because I knew any minute I was going to be devoured by that beast. It felt like eternity I couldn’t make a sound because I didn’t want it to hear me, but from the inside I was crying and screaming for help, but no one could hear me. Then I remember that I could hear a voice from far calling my name and kept repeating it over and over again, that’s when I realized I was dreaming, but I still couldn’t get up I felt my body heavy as if I was paralyzed from head to toe. The next morning I remember sharing this experience with my mom, but all she said was it was all a dream, but when I was experiencing it was far from that to me.
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Post by Laura Gonzalez on Oct 7, 2015 23:09:51 GMT
Provide two or more examples of "Gumby Land" thinking in your own life or from someone you know. 64247
It id for a a fact that for any claim given there must be evidence supporting that claim. For example, a friend and I were having a conversation about dinosaurs and he gave me the theory that if someone or something were to look at the earth from billions miles away they would still be able to see dinosaurs roaming around the earth. He claimed that because it takes light years for the stars to be visible on earth that it is also possible for earth time to take billions of years to reach the outer surface of the universe. There is absolutely no way to test out this theory for out technology has yet to even have such phenomenal break through. The only true evidence from his claim was that the stars are truly old stars that have probably died ages ago and are now just reaching earth. This is an example of "Gumby land" because in order to find the truth there must be tests that must take place to reassert his theory. There has to me an explination to why the earth works the way it does and its all been proven.
Describe two or more examples from your own like where you have been caught by "maya" and how do you extricate yourself from this delusion?
One of the major illusion that i had to break through was life and all that was given to us was handed to us by a higher power. I was raised to be catholic but began to question the world and how it actually worked. Science played a huge part of this of course. In my mind it helped see through the illusion that I was put here on earth on purpose and that I was already assigned a life that was predestined. I didn't begin to realize this until high school were i had the resources to expand my mind had began to do things for myself not just to satisfy others needs and wants from me. It was a hard illusion to break through since i was routinely forced to accept something that didn't satisfy my life. That things happen not because of some god that is punishing me because I'm an awful human being but because it was just probability that I would have unjustifiable bad days. Another major illusion to be was death. Death is such a fearful thing for a human being. I was terrified of it and got many anxiety attacks just thinking about it, but now that I've grown up and gathered as much information on how the world works. Now I can just take a deep breath and remind myself that no matter what I will always exist. Our physical bodies are the only thing that remains on earth and actually gives back to earth. The worms that accumulate in my body will eventually be dinner for a bird looking for food to feed their new born children and so on and so forth. My body is constantly recycled and as for my soul or conscious will emerge to a higher being. Any meaning is better than no meaning given that my own meaning makes me want to live another day, even though that meaning has no exact truth or significant evidence.
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Post by Laura Gonzalez on Oct 8, 2015 0:09:35 GMT
Personal paranormal experience, rational claim, and the Chandian effect. 1957-8
I was on a trip to Mexico with my mother and we were staying at my grandmother's house for the time being. It was my first time visiting the place where my mother, aunts, and uncles were raised. My mother would always tell me stories on her and her siblings would always witness paranormal stuff and how Mexico was really known to have witches, goblins, gnomes, ghost, devils, demons, and so many other paranormal things while she was growing up. It's not until now that i realized that they were only told to her to scare her from being a bad child and it worked. So one of the first things we did was pay our respects to the dead. We went to a cemetery where my grandpa and uncle were buried. Prior to this my mother warned me not to wander around because there were lost souls trying to infiltrate those who were lost, angry, or sad. But of course I brushed it off and visited my deceased family that I unfortunately did not get the chance to meet. I forgot what happened but i ended up getting angry and decided to roam around the cemetery looking at tombstones and reading the comments and names on them. I did have an eerie feel to it but at the time I thought of course it is a cemetery after all. So after walking around i come back to where my mother and family were and it's time to head out. Later on that day or should i say night.. I decided to sleep in the living room with my cousin to watch tv and it's about 3 in the morning and my cousin is knocked out. I for some reason am having a restless night. I'm laying down and I cannot sleep for my life. There is an old house in front of my grandmother's house in which was the original house they all use to live in and there is this giant window where the washing room was. So as I realize it was getting late, I get up to get a drink of water thinking it might help. I look at the window and that there is someone standing at the window of the old house. I move in closer to get a better look and I see that he is old with a giant mustache and wearing a pancho. It hits be that looks exactly like my grandfather and I look to see one of the pictures in the living room and see that it is absolutely him. I FREAK OUT! I go to the room where my mother was sleeping and wake her up and I tell her what happens and told me to sleep with her and not to go back outside. I'm so terrified that i cant even take off my own shoes out of fear. I ended up leaving them on till morning. I have never meet my grandpa. He only knew me when i was a child and didn't get the opportunity to meet him. I don't know if there is a rational claim besides me being up late, but what does that have to do with what happened? Now through the chandian effect, was it really me projecting a man that i have never meet? if so, why? Was my self conscious desperate enough to see him that i projected him myself? It is so hard to understand and troubles me at times.
Astrological sign and if and how to fits to my personality. How can you explain it with critical thinking? It is claimed that Capricorn's strengths are being responsible, patient, ambitious, resourceful, and loyal. For me personally, I am absolutely not patient what so ever. Although i am responsible, ambitious only when it is something that i am really in to, resourceful when i have to be, and i am defiantly loyal to a certain extent. The symbol of a Capricorn is a goat and half fish. This represents me so truthfully because although i can be so down to earth the most comfortable place i can ever be is in a pool. At times it freaks me out how close they can describe who i am with just stars. Now that i Have the power to be skeptical, I think and try to figure out how they came up with such ideas. To be it is like a bible that has it all figured out and that was created by people to categorize others on how a certain person must be and act.
If an alien were to visit me in my house I believe the most odd thing he will see is how human like my family and I treat my dog. No, I don't mean we dress her up and give her human food, but talk to her as though she is a human baby. We spoil her with treats, beds, and when my family and I are not around she is queen of the castle. My mother has bought her so many different comfortable beds, I don't even have a bed as comfortable as hers!
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Post by Ana Vallejo on Oct 8, 2015 1:04:13 GMT
FILM EXAM QUESTIONS 5 9/30/15
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Question: Take an experience from own life where you have this dualism. But no data to prove it. Analyze any solution to it for those who don’t have evidence.
Answer: Not sure if this qualifies as dualism but on occasion I feel like my heart literally skips a beat. I normally don’t even feel my heart beating. Some times all of a sudden I feel my heart beating really fast. Lub dub, lub dub then nothing. I don’t feel a heartbeat. I’m so sure my heart is not beating normally. I start to worry. I scheduled an appointment to see my doctor because I’m so sure I have a heart condition. I explained my symptoms and worries.My doctor listened to my heart with his stethoscope and of course he didn’t hear anything odd. I keep insisting something was wrong so I requested to have tests ordered. EKG Technician confirms everything comes up normal on the results and my heart is fine. However, on occasion I still feel like my heart isn’t pumping/beating regularly but with normal test results I have no proof this is happening. It’s a very odd feeling. I know what I feel but why aren’t the results showing this. What I believe is happening is my anxiety is making have these irrational thoughts that something is wrong with my heart. When you suffer from anxiety you can trick your mind to make you feel like you’re ill but nothing is actually physically wrong.
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